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		<title>By: Remy Francis</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Remy Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 04:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such an excellent post! Congrats! Every point is so true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such an excellent post! Congrats! Every point is so true.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 is dead on. There is a countless amount of scumbags trying to screw you out of a buck on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 is dead on. There is a countless amount of scumbags trying to screw you out of a buck on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Loukotka</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Loukotka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 23:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nicole

Live and learn.  We all made a lot of these mistakes when we were younger.

&quot;I price what I’m worth and I’m worth a lot&quot; - That is a great attitude.  If you&#039;re confident in your prices, you&#039;ll be confident with your work, which always leads to a more respectful relationship with a client. If you know that you&#039;re worth it, your clients will too.

Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nicole</p>
<p>Live and learn.  We all made a lot of these mistakes when we were younger.</p>
<p>&#8220;I price what I’m worth and I’m worth a lot&#8221; &#8211; That is a great attitude.  If you&#8217;re confident in your prices, you&#8217;ll be confident with your work, which always leads to a more respectful relationship with a client. If you know that you&#8217;re worth it, your clients will too.</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Foster</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for giving me a good laugh! I wish I had this posted in front of me when I first started out because I enter a lot of contests and lowered my prices severely to get clients. Trust me, I will never do that again. I price what I&#039;m worth and I&#039;m worth a lot :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for giving me a good laugh! I wish I had this posted in front of me when I first started out because I enter a lot of contests and lowered my prices severely to get clients. Trust me, I will never do that again. I price what I&#8217;m worth and I&#8217;m worth a lot <img src='http://fringefocus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Loukotka</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Loukotka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Val Woodhouse

It&#039;s hard when you&#039;re starting out.  If contests are the only work you can do to learn, then by all means do them. I think when we start out we all hit up craigslist or friends or other bad places to find work.

What&#039;s important is that you recognize the destructive aspects of spec work sites (or craigslist, etc.), and start finding quality work outside of that. If you want to make living as a designer, and not get burned out from stress... definitely avoid these places. The work itself doesn&#039;t kill you, it&#039;s the stress that comes with it, haha.

For those of you looking for GOOD clients, try hitting up local businesses, get your business cards out there.  Go to parties, networking events, meet people.  Eventually somebody cool will want to work with you, and that might even lead to referrals for more work.  Cool people lead to cool work, which means you&#039;ll get paid AND have fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Val Woodhouse</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard when you&#8217;re starting out.  If contests are the only work you can do to learn, then by all means do them. I think when we start out we all hit up craigslist or friends or other bad places to find work.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s important is that you recognize the destructive aspects of spec work sites (or craigslist, etc.), and start finding quality work outside of that. If you want to make living as a designer, and not get burned out from stress&#8230; definitely avoid these places. The work itself doesn&#8217;t kill you, it&#8217;s the stress that comes with it, haha.</p>
<p>For those of you looking for GOOD clients, try hitting up local businesses, get your business cards out there.  Go to parties, networking events, meet people.  Eventually somebody cool will want to work with you, and that might even lead to referrals for more work.  Cool people lead to cool work, which means you&#8217;ll get paid AND have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: 8 Ways to Get Shitty Clients &#124; Fringe Focus</title>
		<link>http://fringefocus.com/2010/freelancing/8-ways-to-get-shitty-clients/comment-page-1#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>8 Ways to Get Shitty Clients &#124; Fringe Focus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8 Ways to Get Shitty Clients &#124; Fringe Focus  Written by fabian. Posted on March 15, 2010. Filed under posterous. Bookmark the Permalink. Post a Comment. Leave a Trackback URL.      via fringefocus.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Val Woodhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who&#039;s pretty desperate to get any sort of foot in the design door, this article&#039;s one I should have pinned in front of me every day. I&#039;ll admit to having a go at a couple of design contests but mainly for the practice, not for something great to add to my portfolio. Most of the work on those sites is pretty amateurish and contest holders never seem to pick a good winner in the end!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s pretty desperate to get any sort of foot in the design door, this article&#8217;s one I should have pinned in front of me every day. I&#8217;ll admit to having a go at a couple of design contests but mainly for the practice, not for something great to add to my portfolio. Most of the work on those sites is pretty amateurish and contest holders never seem to pick a good winner in the end!</p>
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		<title>By: Joann Sondy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joann Sondy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!

Much success to everyone. Me thinks you should turn this into a poster and offer for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!</p>
<p>Much success to everyone. Me thinks you should turn this into a poster and offer for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Angelegenheiten - Social Ethikräte find ich insgesamt doof.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angelegenheiten - Social Ethikräte find ich insgesamt doof.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] gehöre ich noch nicht einmal zur Zielgruppe. Auch eine große Agentur kann es sich durchaus leisten, anders zu kommunizieren als etwa [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] gehöre ich noch nicht einmal zur Zielgruppe. Auch eine große Agentur kann es sich durchaus leisten, anders zu kommunizieren als etwa [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed this list very much and had to give a few chuckles. It is all so true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed this list very much and had to give a few chuckles. It is all so true.</p>
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